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Poster: hippie64 Date: Oct 5, 2012 6:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: What is your "definitive" Scarlet/Fire ... (a FURTHER inguiry)

is it 5/8/77 ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luAqu8VX5wo&;feature=related

*this FURTHER cut ...

Wow. has Phil been doing this cut long...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQq_DRPr4iE&;feature=g-all-a


peace archive !

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Poster: dyneq Date: Oct 6, 2012 5:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What is your 'definitive' Scarlet/Fire ... (a FURTHER inguiry)

2/5/78 (DP18) consistently gives me chills during the transition. It's just a beautiful jam where Jerry and Keith play arpeggios.

Definitive S>F when I was at the show: 9/4/91.

Keep the recommendations coming!

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Poster: Reade Date: Oct 6, 2012 9:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What is your 'definitive' Scarlet/Fire ... (a FURTHER inguiry)

2/5/78 to me is the first great S>F and the only one from the seventies that has ever got my attention. It's tremendous. (Jerry's soloing on the tune in general doesn't seem to me to come into it's own till the eighties- and what is better than a sreamin' Jerry solo during Scarlet?)
I have a huge bias where these things are concerned and that is I can't stand Fire on the Mountain. So what I listen for is the Jerry solo during Scarlet and the transition jam. I have found a high positive correlation between these two. If one is fantastic the other tends to be -to my ears- as well.

That said, I always weigh in on these things with my two longstanding favorites (which never seem to get mentioned or appear on any list), 4/13/83 (the 'more cowbell' version), and 6/16/85. But I'm gonna pass on linking to them as I usually do because I recently discovered a new favorite that I'm very excited about. A Charlie Miller AUD appeared on the TJI list recently and I gave it a spin and om my world! Fantastic solo and transition, which sent me immediately to the sounboard- and I like this new AUD better! Which is a new discovery in and of itself for me (tend to be a soundboard snob).
I love this place- unearthing new discoveries like this is really fun. I'd like to search old S>F threads to see if this ever gets mentioned (I suspect not) but I'm not sure how to do that.
Check this sucker out. Jerry doesn't sound particularly amped until right before the solo starts and then geez he lets it rip. And the transition jam is sublime:
http://archive.org/details/gd1982-09-20.122089.senn421.streeter.miller.flac16

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Oct 6, 2012 4:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What is your 'definitive' Scarlet/Fire ... (a FURTHER inguiry)

Tie between 12/18/78 and 2/3/79.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Oct 6, 2012 5:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What is your 'definitive' Scarlet/Fire ... (a FURTHER inguiry)

5/21/77 (DP Vol. 29)

to me has the best combination of perfection in execution of both songs, plus intense jamming in the transition to and duration of "Fire".

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Poster: vapors Date: Oct 6, 2012 7:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re:Let It Ride

"*this FURTHER cut ...

Wow. has Phil been doing this cut long..."

You are right; since his first show with Ryan :
http://archive.org/details/paf2005-07-15.nakcm300.robr.30102.sbeok.flac16

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Poster: hippie64 Date: Oct 7, 2012 7:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Re:Let It Ride

fantastic job on this, really tight as well through Mason's...

This post was modified by hippie64 on 2012-10-07 14:41:08

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Poster: vapors Date: Oct 7, 2012 8:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Re:Let It Ride

http://archive.org/details/furthur2012-09-20.furthur2012-09-20

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Poster: craven714 Date: Oct 7, 2012 5:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Re:Let It Ride

There are far to many good S>Fs to pick. We have been over this before, right?

I dont mean any disrespect vapors, but I was at that show
you mention and it sucked. And on top of that, I left my
15 year old 'Bass Great - Lesh Philling' original T-shirt
in the cab after being dropped at the hotel that Phil was
staying at I found out later. I missed him by 5 minutes.

The next night at Red Rox wasnt that much better either.
But what the heck... Its Red Rox. magical.
Again, not to be pissy. Just my 2 cents. You give me
inspiration to give it another listen though. I do
remember the Eyes being pretty good. Everything was just
too ssslllllloooooooowwww for me. Glad someone enjoys it:)

One man gathers what another man spills

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Oct 5, 2012 7:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What is your 'definitive' Scarlet/Fire ... (a FURTHER inguiry)

if I could only have one version it would be 10-10-1980, if 05-08-1977 is considered to be the best version, I wouldn't argue with it...

http://archive.org/details/gd1980-10-10.mtx.chappell.sb03.28740.flac16


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Poster: nja Date: Oct 5, 2012 10:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What is your 'definitive' Scarlet/Fire ... (a FURTHER inguiry)

Well, Nassau '79 is special, but to its being 49 minutes long, but I've alway liked the '78 Jacksonville, FL, and the 1990 Copps Coliseum for being a short, to the point, rockin, midi'ed out S/F.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Oct 5, 2012 10:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What is your 'definitive' Scarlet/Fire ... (a FURTHER inguiry)

http://gratefuldeadprojects.com/Scarlet_Begonias_Fire.html

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Oct 6, 2012 6:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What is your 'definitive' Scarlet/Fire ... (a FURTHER inguiry)

that's a cute list, but slightly off and incomplete...

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Poster: Deadhead225 Date: Oct 6, 2012 6:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What is your 'definitive' Scarlet/Fire ... (a FURTHER inguiry)

Nearly impossible to pick a best, but I have ALWAYS liked 10/14/83 and could not believe it when they did a DP of this show. I must not have been the only one that put it on the suggestion card!

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Poster: whirlwind dreamer 65-95 Date: Oct 6, 2012 6:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What is your 'definitive' Scarlet/Fire ... (a FURTHER inguiry)

i alway's liked the ones like this from the europe 81 tour. crank it up and enjoy!! :) http://archive.org/details/gd81-10-08.sbd.macdonald.7918.sbeok.shnf and this one from spain. http://archive.org/details/gd1981-10-19.sbd.miller.95781.sbeok.flac16

This post was modified by whirlwind dreamer 65-95 on 2012-10-07 01:00:56

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Poster: tigerwolf43 Date: Oct 8, 2012 5:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What is your 'definitive' Scarlet/Fire ... (a FURTHER inguiry)

Here's mine - from an unheralded but excellent show: http://archive.org/details/gd1981-03-10.sbd.miller.115598.flac16